Pattaya gogo bars beer bars and how they work. These guidelines also apply to the gogos and beer bars in the entertainment districts of Soi Nana, Patpong and Soi Cowboy in Bangkok and the bars in Patong Phuket.
How Much For a Girl From a GoGo Bar or a Beer Bar
- Beer bar barfines are normally 300 – 500 baht to take the girl outside for one hour or so. Plus the girls asking price. Normally 800 – 1500 baht for one hour. 1000 baht is common and a reasonable price for a girl from a beer bar.
- GoGo bar barfines are normally 800 – 1500 baht to take the girl outside for one hour or so. Plus the girl’s asking price which can be anywhere from 1500 baht to 10,000 baht depending on the girl. 2000 baht is common and reasonable for a girl from a gogo bar. Often in gogo bars the barfine rate will drop as the night progresses.
- You pay the barfine to the bar along with your bar tab before you leave the bar.
- The girls asking price you pay after all the business is complete and shortly before she leaves to go home or back to her bar.
If you want to take a girl out of a beer bar or a gogo bar you will usually at some point be dealing with the Mamasan. She is in charge of all the girls working in the bar and she is normally a little older than the other girls.
The Mamasan in a gogo bar will often be seen walking around the bar and asking customers if they see anything they like and if they would like any particular lady that is dancing on the stage to join them for a ladydrink. At times some are a little pushy but always be polite and reply with a smile. If she’s not doing rounds in the bar then she is often located right at the bar.
Beer Bar Basics
In a beer bar the Mamasan is more often than not located right at the bar. She is who you will pay the “bar fine” to and can also help you with any special requests that you may have. They have seen and heard it all many times over so there is not any need to feel shy or think she will be uncomfortable with any of your requests. Beer bars normally have their drink and beer prices up on the wall.
Mamasan is not always directly involved in your transaction. Beer bars are normally open air bars (at least in the front) so you can see if there is anyone inside that you fancy as you walk by and are perhaps interested to strike up a conversation and perform a compatibility check. For example, if you want to see how much English she knows… if any of that matters to you. Then after conversing with your favorite girl, maybe buying her a ladydrink or two and agreeing on what she wants to go with you, you pay your bar tab and pay the bar fine to the Mamasan to take the girl out of the bar.
Always pay the girl after everything has completed and shortly before you part ways. You will normally be negotiating for a ST (short time) usually 1 hour but can extend to 1.5 to 2 hours with travel time. If you have her for a LT (long time) which is normally overnight and into the next day you still pay after everything has completed and shortly before she leaves. LLT (long long time) can be anywhere from a few days to a month or even months, then it’s perfectly fine to pay her some installments along the way and she is more than likely sending support money to someone back in her home village.
Sometimes in both beer bars and gogo bars the Mamasan may try to negotiate that you pay the girls personal fee to go with you in advance. She wants a piece of the action and will ask a little more than what the girl is asking. Do not pay this in advance. There are too many things that can go wrong if you pay this part beforehand. Politely tell her no and that you have already negotiated a price with your newly found companion and you will pay her after everything has completed. Most will back off at this point but if they don’t then move on. There is no shortage of bars full of attractive girls in Pattaya and any of the other entertainment districts in Thailand for that matter.
Take note that it’s not guaranteed that your girl of choice will have any interest in you.
GoGo Bar Basics
Upon entering a gogo bar you will often be shown to a seat by the hostess or maybe even the Mamasan. If it’s not your seat of choice then it’s normally not a problem and tell her where you want to sit. You can order a drink then or ask to see a menu with drink prices. In an unfamiliar gogo bar you should ask to see a drink menu. Some gogo bars can have outrageous drink prices and even two different drink menus with different prices.
I once was in a gogo bar in Patong Phuket and was shown a drink menu that had beer for 500 baht!! The regular menu had the exact same beer for 120 baht!! The menus were identical except for the prices. Be sure to look very carefully. If you order from the wrong menu then that is the price you will be expected to pay and if you refuse then there could very well be some big trouble on the horizon.
Back to the good stuff… gogo bars come in assorted sizes. Some have one large stage in the middle and some have many dance stages but generally they are always in the middle. Some also have more than one level with a glass floor on the dance stage above you for your viewing entertainment. The smaller gogo bars will only have 4 or 5 girls up at once where the large gogo bars will have 20 – 30 or so dancing up on the stage at the same time and after about 30 minutes they will do a shift change and a completely new set of 20 – 30 dancers will arrive on stage. Often the large groups of dancers will be wearing the same theme attire and the next shift will be a different theme attire.
In most, but not all gogo bars the Mamasan will occasionally walk past and ask you if there are any girls on stage or seated in the bar that you fancy and would like to join you for a ladydrink. Meanwhile there could also be one or two on stage motioning that they would like to join you. Depending on each gogo bar’s rules the girl will often come right offstage as she is dancing to sit with you. You will be expected to buy a ladydrink but be careful as the same girl may have 2 or 3 ladydrinks going at other tables with different customers simultaneously. Some of the girls in the gogo bars will not go outside with customers and rely solely on ladydrink commissions as their income. That said, most of the time this is not the case.
If you have one join you and you have not bar fined her yet, don’t be surprised if she gets up to dance again before she has finished her drink as it is still her job to be onstage and bring customers into the bar and work on getting a barfine. She will normally return when the girls onstage change shifts.
The price negotiating and payment methods are generally the same as in the beer bars but barfines in gogo bars are more expensive than the beer bars and the girls asking price to accompany you is as well. Some will ask outrageous prices.
The Bar Fine
A bar fine is what you will need to pay the bar to take your favorite girl or girls for a LT (long time) or ST (short time). Long time being overnight or even days or weeks. The girl or girls will also have a fee that can, if she likes you, sometimes be negotiated. Most if not all bargirls will ask you if you have been to Thailand before or how many times have you been to Thailand. Appearing like you know what you are doing is a good way of saving a few baht because she is sorting out if she can overcharge you or not. It can be worth lying if they ask you how long you’ve spent in Thailand already, or how many times you’ve been. If you say this is your 3rd trip to Thailand, or you’ve been here for a month so far, they will presume you know how it all works.
Anytime a girl in a beer bar or gogo is sitting with you she will more than likely request a ladydrink or many ladydrinks as you talk and decide if you like her enough to bar fine her. A ladydrink is normally a drink of her choice and could be fruit juice or could be a tequila shooter as some girls don’t drink alcohol and some drink to excess. They are a little more expensive than what you would pay for your own drink as the ladies get a commission from them.
Some girls in the gogo bars do not go outside with customers and/or ask a very outrageous price to do so and rely solely on their income from their salary and ladydrink commissions. These ones will sometimes have a few ladydrinks going simultaneously with different customers at different tables in the bar.
What Happens When You Get To Your Hotel
If you do wish to bring a girl or ladyboy from a gogo or beer bar to your hotel she will be required to leave her ID at your hotel’s front desk. She is an employee of the bar you met her at and it is a safe and controlled system. This is for both your protection and hers.
Additionally If you want to bring a girl back to your hotel you will need to make sure your hotel is “guest friendly” as some hotels in Pattaya do not allow guests. There are also some that will charge you 1000 baht to have someone in your room. Don’t worry though because many hotels don’t have any charge at all. This will usually be stated on any hotel’s website and is referred to as a joiner fee. There are also many “short time” hotels all over Pattaya that can be rented by the hour. The girls are all well versed as to where the closest short time hotels are located.
Most hotels will give a quick phone call to your room as your lady picks up her ID card on her way out just to make sure that everything is OK.